2012 North American Anti Slaughter Summit Announced

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Horseback MagazineCHATHAM, N.Y. (Equine Advocates)  — The 2012 American Equine Summit will take place March 31 – April 1 at Equine Advocates Rescue & Sanctuary in Chatham, NY.  This invitation only summit will unite the equine community’s foremost experts to speak about horse slaughter, raise awareness and encourage grassroots efforts to ban this practice, which has recently gained legislative approval to be reinstated.  In attendance will be members of the press, lawmakers and those involved with animal welfare and the horse industry.

Said Susan Wagner, founder/president of Equine Advocates, “Over 80 percent of Americans oppose horse slaughter, according to recent polls.  Our goal is to empower these ‘eighty-percenters’ to make their voices heard in Congress, urging their representatives to pass legislation to stop this horrendous practice.”

Horse lover and legendary concert promoter, Ron Delsener , will be the Keynote Speaker.  Others will include:

Paula Bacon (Texas): Former Mayor of Kaufman, Texas, will address the impact of opening a horse slaughterhouse.

Cathleen Doyle (Oklahoma): Director, Save the Horses will discuss the historic passage of the initiative that banned horse slaughter in California.

John Holland (Virginia): Equine Welfare Alliance President will present the misconceptions about “slaughter horses”.

Dr. Kraig J. Kulikowski, D.V.M. (Florida and New York): Licensed equine practitioner will discuss humane euthanasia as an alternative to slaughter.

Katia Louise (California): International award-winning documentary filmmaker will screen and discuss Saving America’s Horses .

Victoria McCullough (Florida): Equine protectionist will discuss the successful passage of Florida’s 2010 Equine Protection Act.

Cindy Meehl (Connecticut): Director of the award-winning 2011 documentary, Buck.

Jo Anne Normile ( Michigan): Saving Baby Founder will discuss national “After Care” programs developed by racing organizations.

“Equine Advocates is unequivocally against equine slaughter for human consumption – and it will be a travesty if horse slaughter were to return to the US,” said Wagner.  “This will happen if special interest groups twist the issue and have their way through their lobbyists in Congress.  We must act now to stop them.”

Founded in 1996, Equine Advocates is a non-profit equine protection organization and Horse Sanctuary based in Chatham, NY.  Its mission is to rescue, protect and prevent the abuse of equines, especially through banning the slaughter of American horses, through education, investigation, rescue operations and public education. Email info@equineadvocates.org or call 518-245-1599 for more information.

20 comments for “2012 North American Anti Slaughter Summit Announced

  1. Anotherhorseman
    March 20, 2012 at 1:14 pm

    Dear Mrs. Moore,

    After having thought long and hard about your accusations and assumptions of my character…I will answer with this….

    You are not correct in your assessment of my ability to understand your thought process nor are you correct in how I view horses and the emotional side of horse ownership…..having ridden and trained many(and worked with them day in and day out in actual ranch/livestock management jobs) I know that I have a very good grasp of the entire issue of birth to death equine management.

    Mrs. Moore the very reason that you and the general public should not have complete control over the equine industry(in regards to slaughter/salvage) lies in your very own words that you so eloquently put to pen in your second from the last paragraph.

    The fact that you love horses is wonderfull..in fact it is the reason that the horse industry exists..you are the individuals that breeders try so hard to satisfy with good horses…the fact that you do not consider them to be investments is also a good thing, as if you did..few would ever own a horse.

    Those very facts are why breeders and trainers should have the ability to manage the business of breeding/raising/developing/horses as they see fit….our sector of the equine business requires that we provide a good quality horse that you…”the public/market” desire to own for a lifetime.
    Without the ability to manage our assets/investments in the quest of raising “GOOD HORSES” we will cease to exist and therefore there will be less really good horses available for you to love and cherish…that is the reality of raising horses…they are not all worth your attention and they cost money to maintain, it may not seem like a huge amount of income but the removal of the culls from the spectrum of horses available is paramount to the success of the whole business.

    Best Regards

    • skip
      March 20, 2012 at 9:08 pm

      To Anotherhorseman- C’mon,knock off the common sense already! Who do you think you’re talking to…?

  2. March 15, 2012 at 9:13 pm

    Skip and Another ~ The burden of proof is NOT on us. We are just reminding you of the FOOD SAFETY REGULATIONS in both the US and Canada. Guys, surely you are able to understand that we don’t write the laws, aren’t you?

    Maybe EVERY horse hasn’t had at least ONE of these banned substances during the course of his/her ENTIRE LIFE – as hard as that may be to believe – it doesn’t matter because there are NO records to prove whether they have or not. No records, no entering the human food chain – EVER.

    Laws are laws and banned is banner.

    And Another ~ Why the heck would we want to import something Americans do not want to eat? There is NO reason why Americans “should” eat horse meat. Give it a rest already? Oh yeah, Another, Sue’s Summit WAS pay-for-play, BUT if you were known to be anti-slaughter, you couldn’t buy a ticket. She wouldn’t sell tickets to antis.

    • Anotherhorseman
      March 16, 2012 at 7:27 am

      Dear Mrs. Moore,

      I believe Canada and Australia both have a world class tracking system for the Cattle Industry…from what I have heard all the U.S. has is a hot iron brand(sometimes not even that)…yet everyday nearly a 100,000 head of U.S. Country of Origin fat cattle get killed/slaughtered for Human consumption in country and abroad.

      Without a tracking system individual health records are worthless as there is no way to verify the validity..so actually the Food Safety Regulations are virtually worthless(something Denise would likely agree with).
      Apparently in the U.S. the honor system(as well as in plant testing) is the prevailing thought process and it must be working to some degree as we have not seen a massive health related problem associated with eating the flesh from cattle(there has been rampant speculation/fear mongering such as BSE, which did in fact have a devastating effect on cattle prices,however no direct death was attributed)…many(apparently U.S. Regulatory Systems as well) would assume the same results of the health related risk of consuming the flesh of horses as well.

      Why would Americans consider consumption of horse flesh…PRICE(value for the money) the base cost of a #1 Cull Slaughter Horse is 1/3 that of a beef animal of comparable cost…red meat(from beef/buffalo) is one of the most expensive components of a household budget. We all know that there are more unemployed and poverty stricken U.S. Citizens at this particular time than has occurred for many many years….so a conservative approach to a daily dietary budget is generally widely accepted.

      In the matter of Mrs. Wallis… I and my peer group think she has made many a mistake(as has been stated many times in the past I/We are not members of her group) and I am sorry that you were not able to purchase a ticket and go to that particular event.

      Best Regards

      • March 16, 2012 at 10:04 am

        You STILL don’t get it! We are exporting our horse meat to countries that DO use the passport system, mainly the EU. THEY and their Member Countries are the ones who have demanded that WE also implement a comparable system or they will not accept our horses after this year. Is THAT clear?

        You cannot compare cattle to horses because cattle ARE tracked from birth and horses are not. Cattle are raised under the regs of food animals. Their products are not permitted to contain banned substances like bute. http://www.box.com/s/jo07as10kerg9ry66gpk Horses are not regulated or tracked at all. Besides bute, many other horse meds and products contain banned substances and are plainly marked: not for use in horses intended for food purposes.

        Even products that can be used in cattle, such as ivermectin, cannot be used in horses because withdrawal times have never been determined in horses. Cattle are generally sold by the person/persons that raised them. Horses usually have multiple owners who cannot even be identified and contacted to ask what the horse has or has not been exposed to. Even substances that DO have withdrawal times determined for horses can’t be tracked to verify what the horse has/has not been exposed to or if the withdrawal time has elapsed. And you surely know that the kill buyers are not respecting ANY rules for quarantine, as was brought out by the EU inspectors.

        It has been amply demonstrated by THEIR inspections of OUR horses that the horses are contaminated with banned substances.

        If our horses are too tainted for Europeans, they are too tainted for Americans. Our own Food Safety Laws are just like the EU’s.

        I did NOT want to attend Wallis’ Slaughter Summit. I wasn’t an anti who tried to buy a ticket, but there were those who did and were turned down.

        And FINALLY, Americans KNOW that horse slaughter is unconscionably cruel. We have videos and pictures by the hundreds, plus the comments of the kill buyers themselves. Other countries know it too.

        But, it’s much harder to get an established practice stopped than it is to prevent it in the first place. That is our position, and we will fight it in every town in this country if we cannot get legislators to wake up and pass national legislation if they want to be reelected. You may deny the poll, but THEY don’t. That 80% against means something to THEM if not to you. Also, that’s against is UP ten points from ten years ago as more and more Americans are made aware of what has been going on under the radar.

        Americans DO NOT WANT to slaughter and EAT their horses. You are NOT going to build a market for horse meat here, so give it up already. We are not going to start eating our horses any more than we’re going to start eating our dogs and cats.

        Most individual horse owners are NOT breeders and do NOT consider their horses as an “investment.” We consider them companions, friends, partners and family members and don’t expect to make money off them. You are the cold, polar opposite of the majority of horse owners who are offended at the idea that their BFF is an “investment” and has “salvage” value.

        You are unable to understand how we feel about our horses, and your attitude repels and offends us, as Admin has warned you time after time. At least you should have some respect for HIS opinions.

  3. Anotherhorseman
    March 15, 2012 at 8:08 pm

    Dear Editor,

    I object to your lack of providing equal rules of engagement on this venue….you allow the Anti’s to call the Pro’s names…yet if the Pro’s make an error in judgement of this type…you are very quick to scold us…whats with that…?

    I expect nothing less than a complete answer in this particular instance….personally I have remained polite and remained civil (for the most part) in my postings on this site that you control.

    And yes..I admit I have mentioned the label “Liberal” a few times…however that is not name calling…unless one feels targeted for possessing/endorsing that particular perspective.

    Best Regards

    • admin
      March 15, 2012 at 8:33 pm

      I’m very sorry, but Horseback Online does not allow name calling whatsoever. What we do demand is absolute accuracy in what is posted here and consistently we have seen self serving propaganda, not fact, used to bolster argument on the side you support on this contentious issue. What is worse, not only you, but virtually everyone who agrees with you has seemed to want to ignore the FCC ban against slaughtering animals tainted with chemicals that are prohibited. Frankly, we find that shameful.

      There is an old saying in our business. The one who owns the press makes the rules about what is published. My rules are strict and uncompromising. We do not take sides, however, we do demand truth, not hot air.


      The Editor

      • Anotherhorseman
        March 15, 2012 at 10:26 pm

        Dear Editor,

        No need to be “Sorry”.

        I find the term “Hot Air” amusing…in many peoples minds “Hot Air” can be compared to “Speculation and Self Serving Drama”

        I agree…accuracy is paramount…so lets see all the death certificates/coroner’s reports and hospital lab results that quantify all of the insinuations made about the toxicity of consuming horse flesh by people living in the Countries that do in fact consume horse flesh as a protein source on a regular basis.

        Having said that…I humbly submit that yes…this is your venue…and I appreciate the capability to post alternative thought process and the perspective that we/I embrace.

        Thanks So Much

  4. March 14, 2012 at 10:30 pm

    Skip ~ Besides being banned by laws that YOU can’t control, where would one get this stuff in a country the DOS NOT EAT HORSES! As for Europe, read my answer to Anotheridiot.

    You can ignore this issue for now, but when the EU refuses ALL our horses, you WILL have to face it – and obey the LAW. I wonder why those laws were past in the first place, since both you and Another obviously know better. Go on TELL the FDA you know more than they do! I can’t wait!

  5. Janet Schultz
    March 14, 2012 at 9:05 am

    Give us all a break. So what if it is invitation only. How many seminars, dinners, conventions are open to the public when they are for a specific agenda? And I can’t resist but what public invite was made to the backroom where Blunt, Kohl and Ralston stripped the rider prohibiting funds for inspection.

    And in case you are against slaughter, quit yer whining.

    • Janet Schultz
      March 14, 2012 at 9:10 am

      And you say it is an opportunity for pro-slaughter to be enlightened by anti-slaughter? If you are interested, go to Mary Nash’s page and do some reading, then visit Animals Angels, then try Equine Welfare Alliance. Its all there. I have a hunch this summit isn’t about enlightening those who can’t wait for horse slaughter to start up.But I think all us who didn’t get an invite will just have to wait. Big sigh.

    • Lisa L.
      March 21, 2012 at 12:14 pm

      There is no ‘Standing Ovation’ or ‘Applause’ button here, Janet, so you’ll just have to imagine one, ‘k?

  6. Anotherhorseman
    March 14, 2012 at 6:40 am

    Dear Editor,

    Invitation only..?

    Is this where all the Anti’s pat each other on their back and congratulate each other for attempting to shove their personal/collective perspective down every other interest groups throat..? Including thousands of actual “Horse Owners” as well as “Equine Industry Investors” not to mention all Americans interested in private property rights and usage there of, restricting economic freedom is of course a HUGE ISSUE.

    Seems discriminatory to my peer group and I…perhaps they should reconsider this type of limiting action and look at this summit as an opportunity to enlighten Pro slaughter folks as to Anti Slaughter Rational and how it is that they are of course correct and far more intelligent than the Pro Slaughter Side.

    Best Regards

    • March 14, 2012 at 10:07 am

      How many anti-slaughter advocates are invited to Sue Wallis’ Summit of the Horse? How many got refused entrance last year because they were anti-slaughter? Suck it up, Another!

      Private property rights do NOT include taxpayer funded inspections of “disposal plants,” and traceability systems to prevent contaminated meat from entering the human food chain. They also do not include cruelty. There are all kinds of restrictions on what one can do with their animals. Howcome horse dumpers think they’re immune? The Equine Industry has NEVER included mass killing of horses for ANY reason. The Horse Industry is about LIVE horses, not DEAD ones. If you MUST invest in the Equine Slaughter Industry, there are plenty of slaughter plants in Europe. I’m sure they’d be glad to take your money.

      You’re Peer Horse Eaters will be welcome at Slaughterhouse Sue’s shindig. WE can’t go to that one. Why is that okay, but antis can’t have a private meeting too?

      Anyone who thinks selling poisoned meat to consumers seems quite a bit more intelligent than those who think it’s perfectly all right. Just my humble opinion – and also Food Safety Laws, but who cares about details like that?

      Another, Wallis just got run out of Missouri and it wasn’t pretty. Maybe you should check that out. I suppose you haven’t looked at the details of the Lake Research Partner’s poll. 80% of Americans overall and 71% of HORSE OWNERS were STRONGLY against horse slaughter. In my book that’s a majority and should be listened to. Connive and spin all you want – it doesn’t matter. The American people do NOT want your product, so go peddle it elsewhere.

      • Anotherhorseman
        March 14, 2012 at 4:09 pm

        Dear Suzanne Moore,

        I’m sure no invitations were sent out for the Summit of the Horse..as I recall each individual had to “Pay to Play”.

        As for taxpayer funding..the plants offered to pay the cost and they were denied the service….you may remember livestock inspection is actually a fundamental right that has many many years of historical reference.
        The issue of the contribution of a live horse to the equine industry is not in question…the problem is the burden of low end horses that No One Will Invest In…they have a residual value and like it or not removal of this spectrum/class of horses does in fact provide a positive impact on available funds for the horses that do attract disposable income…..so please Mrs. Moore, no more speeches in the regard of how live horses contribute to the horse market more than dead ones do…DUH..! Its not like we are short of either class of these horses.

        Poisoned horse meat..? really now..I think you have taken that about far enough…pure speculation and drama on your part…if you really had anything solid in that regard….the companies that retail horse meat would currently be in court for wrong full death or sickness. Can you please show us some documentation of those court cases…? How about some actual death certificates or Coroners reports, the folks over at McCains Fine Foods experienced that kind of proof for the real tainted meat issue that surfaced in the retail sector….can you provide this proof..?

        In regards to the polls that give you such strong convictions… if you were to compare people who “Think” Gas prices are too high and are strongly opposed to the current price situation…with the same people who “Think/Oppose” Horse Slaughter…you would find that both groups would comprise a majority…however that does not mean you/they(majority) will receive the results you desire.

        Lastly…the only reason Americans do not buy horse meat is the simple fact that most have never had any(availability is to blame)….its very hard to know if you like/dislike a product if you have never had it before, my experience of sharing the quality of horsemeat with people that I meet and become acquainted with has been very rewarding and the majority have been suprised by the high quality of this red meat product.

        Best Regards

        • admin
          March 14, 2012 at 4:14 pm

          You have stated several untruths or distortions in your post. We will address only one. The reason Americans don’t buy horse meat is because it is laced with several carcinoginic chemicals banned by the federal Food and Drug Administration in food animals.

          (10 March, 2010)
          Non Permitted Drug Name Examples of Brand or Common Names Species Indicated on the Label
          5-Nitroimidazoles including dimetridazole, metronidazole, and ronidazole Banned by regulations1 for sale in food producing animals in Canada.
          Not approved for veterinary use in Canada. Not applicable
          Antibiotics used for growth promotion purposes such as olaquindox, carbadox, and tylosin Carbadox Not currently marketed in Canada (stop sale order in effect) N/A
          Antibiotics used for growth promotion purposes such as olaquindox, carbadox, and tylosin Olaquindox Not approved for veterinary use in Canada N/A
          Antibiotics used for growth promotion purposes such as olaquindox, carbadox, and tylosin There are no antimicrobials approved for use as growth promotants for equine in Canada. Equine animals treated with antibiotics for growth promotion reasons are not eligible for slaughter in Canada. Several antimicrobials (e.g., bacitracin, bambermycin, chlortetracycline, lincomycin, procaine penicillin, tylosin, virginiamycin etc.) have label claims for growth promotion/feed efficiency in other food producing animals (e.g., cattle, swine, poultry).
          Aristolochia species and preparations thereof Not approved for veterinary use in Canada. N/A
          Arsanilic acid 3-Nitro-20 Chicken, Turkey, Swine
          Arsanilic acid Histostat 50 Turkey
          Arsanilic acid Pro-Gen 20% Chicken, Turkey
          Arsanilic acid Pro-Gen 100% Chicken, Turkey
          Beta-agonists used for growth promotion purposes, including clenbuterol and ractopamine Clenbuterol
          Banned by regulations1 for sale in food producing animals in Canada. N/A
          Beta-agonists used for growth promotion purposes, including clenbuterol and ractopamine Ractopamine
          Optaflexx 100 Premix Cattle
          Beta-agonists used for growth promotion purposes, including clenbuterol and ractopamine Paylean 20 Swine
          Beta-agonists used for growth promotion purposes, including clenbuterol and ractopamine Ventipulmin Solution Horses not intended for food
          Beta-agonists used for growth promotion purposes, including clenbuterol and ractopamine Ventipulmin Syrup Horses not intended for food
          Beta-agonists used for growth promotion purposes, including clenbuterol and ractopamine Zilpaterol hydrochloride
          Zilmax Medicated Premix Cattle
          Boldenone Equipoise Injectable
          Equipoise Horses not intended for food
          Chloramphenicol Banned by regulations1 for sale in food producing animals in Canada.
          Chloramphenicol 1% Ointment
          ChlorPalm 250 Dog, Cat
          Chloroform Approved as a veterinary drug in Canada, however currently not manufactured N/A
          Chlorpromazine Not approved for veterinary use in Canada. N/A
          Colchicine Not approved for veterinary use in Canada. N/A
          Dapsone Not approved for veterinary use in Canada. N/A
          Methandriol Not approved for veterinary use in Canada. N/A
          Nitrofurans including Furaltadone, Furazolidone, nitrofurantoin, nitrofurazone Banned by regulations1 for sale in food producing animals in Canada.
          Furazolidone Not approved for veterinary use in Canada.
          Furox Aerosol Powder, Topazone Aerosol Powder, Furall registered for veterinary use in the USA. N/A
          Nitrofurans including Furaltadone, Furazolidone, nitrofurantoin, nitrofurazone Furaltadone Not approved for veterinary use in Canada N/A
          Nitrofurans including Furazolidone, Furaltadone, nitrofurantoin, nitrofurazone Nitro Ointment Horses not intended for food
          Nitrofurans including Furazolidone, Furaltadone, nitrofurantoin, nitrofurazone Nitrofur Solution Horses not intended for food
          Nitrofurans including Furazolidone, Furaltadone, nitrofurantoin, nitrofurazone Nitrofurantoin
          Equifur Horses not intended for food, Dog, Cat
          Nitrofurans including Furazolidone, Furaltadone, nitrofurantoin, nitrofurazone Nitrofurazone
          Niderm Ointment Horses not intended for food
          Nitrofurans including Furazolidone, Furaltadone, nitrofurantoin, nitrofurazone Nitrofurazone Ointment General use
          Nitrofurans including Furazolidone, Furaltadone, nitrofurantoin, nitrofurazone Pinkaway Powder Dog, Cat
          Estradiol (for estradiol containing implants, see steroidal hormones below) Estradiol Cypionate in Oil Horses not intended for food, Cattle, Dog, Cat
          Estradiol (for estradiol containing implants, see steroidal hormones below) Estrus Cattle
          Estradiol (for estradiol containing implants, see steroidal hormones below) Uni-Bol Horses not intended for food
          Phenylbutazone Butazone 400
          Butazone 1000
          Butazone Concentrate
          Buzone Concentrate
          Phenylbutazone Injection
          Phenylbutazone Powder
          Phenylbutazone Tablets
          Phenylbutazone Tabs Note: All of the products listed carry an indication for use in equine (but not equine intended to be slaughtered for food)
          Resorcylic acid lactones including zeranol Zeranol
          Ralgro Beef
          Note that this product carries only a cattle indication
          Stanozolol No active products for veterinary use in Canada. N/A
          Steroidal hormonal implants used for growth promotion purposes Equine animals treated with steroid containing hormone implants used to promote growth are not eligible for slaughter in Canada. Note that these products carry only a cattle indication.Hormonal implants containing estradiol or melengestrol acetate singly, or the combinations of estradiol and progesterone; estradiol and testosterone; estradiol and trenbolone acetate etc. sold under different brand names for use in cattle.
          Stilbenes, stilbene derivatives, and their salts and esters including diethylstilbestrol Banned by regulations1 for sale in food producing animals in Canada.
          Stilbestrol Dog, Cat
          Stilbenes, stilbene derivatives, and their salts and esters including diethylstilbestrol Stilbestrol Tablets Dog, Cat
          Thyrostats, antithyroid agents administered under any circumstances for the purpose of growth promotion Approved for use in humans. Use in animals would be under veterinary control, but animals treated with these substances would not be eligible for slaughter. N/A

          • skip
            March 14, 2012 at 9:45 pm

            Amazing,simply amazing….a banned-substance list as long as your arm and no one,not EWA,HSUS,Suzanne Moore(et al) have provided one ounce of evidence as to the actual,toxic nature of horsemeat.Not one!Lots of run-around,banned-substance lists,but not one documented case after 30-40 years of 130,000+ horses consumed/year.Imagine that!
            Time to put your money where your mouth is;documentation,i.e., such as the deaths/illnesses associated w/too much whiskey,one too many sleep-aids,allergic reaction to peanuts,milk products,etc.,all of which are legal,and have the oversight of the FDA/government.
            The milk you drink was produced by a cow that ate hay treated w/toxic chemicals to kill insects and noxious weeds.How much is too much? Aplestic anemia,the poster-child of anti-slaughter rhetoric, has killed/harmed how many horsemeat eaters? Show us your documentation,not a banned-substance list(and,while you’re at it, how much is needed to be considered deleterious to one’s health and well-being).
            It doesn’t take 1000’s of reported deaths/illnesess to initiate a study/recall,etc.by government/health officials. Your use of horsemeat’s supposed toxicity, as an aid to ban slaughter, is patently false and as you’ve shown time and again,w/out documentation.

          • admin
            March 14, 2012 at 9:50 pm

            Against the law means just that, Skip, the substances are banned. Period, end of story.

            The Editor

          • Anotherhorseman
            March 15, 2012 at 11:51 am

            Dear Admin,

            Not every American horse that goes to slaughter is 100% for sure laced with any of the products you mentioned let alone one of them.

            Perhaps we should consider importing horsemeat from the countries that actually do/normally produce horse meat for human consumption..then the American public could have an opportunity to consider this fine product.

            A price comparison could then be applied and American Consumers could in fact choose which country they would like to buy from( Country of Origin or Importing Countries)…providing of course health records are in place and testing is up to the standards of a more traditional red meat product such as Beef Cattle and or Bison.

            Like all things we would assume protectionism to prevail and testing/tracking expense would be negated by shear cost of imported product compared to home grown U.S.D.A. Stamped Product.

            Please keep in mind these are applicable scenario’s that “Could” occur….not non truths or lie’s.

            Best Regards

        • March 14, 2012 at 10:24 pm

          Livestock inspection is a “fundamental right”?????? For whom? Good grief! However, inspections are not going to be the biggest tax money gobbler. The passport system that we will HAVE to implement will cost who knows how many millions of tax dollars. Not only that, it will be very burdensome for those of us who would never send our horses to slaughter.

          If the poll supported YOUR position, you’d be all for it. What nasty loosers you pros are! DUH! Are you really so STUPID that you don’t know that most horses that go to slaughter are the cream of the crop – 92% of horses going to slaughter are healthy, fat and young. Most people don’t think of purchasing a living, breathing entity as an “investment.” It’s only people like you who’s only values are monetary ones. What are “low-end” horses anyway? Huh? What is your description of them? Investment indeed! What you call low end horses are the most affordable ones for families. Most recreational riders don’t have your high standards, Anotherhorsedead.

          As far as the Food Safety LAWS and contaminated horse meat, I have tons of proof, but you discount every thing you don’t want to believe. AMERICANS DON’T EAT HORSE MEAT so how could there be the ridiculous things you say you want to see? Even in Europe, problems from eating tainted meat don’t necessarily show up for years – no one would think of connecting it to horse meat, and surely you DO know that.

          If the EU doesn’t think this is an issue, why do they have the passport system themselves. And, why are they going to insist that we implement a similar system or they will stop accepting our horses? I am sick of this discussion. It’s like trying to talk to someone who thinks the world is flat and discounts every piece of proof that it’s not. You must want those plants real bad, you and your “poor group” to make yourself look THIS brain dead.

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