Texas Prison Horses May be on One Way Trip to the Mexican Border

Story and Photos by Steven Long

HUNTSVILLE, (Horseback) – One of the most genetically perfect herds of horses in North America was hit hard by the selloff of 61 animals at a public auction, their most likely destination, a Mexican slaughterhouse notorious for unspeakable cruelty. The herd of Texas prison horses that were sold had been part of a contingent of animals so remarkable, and even historic, they were subject of a February 2004 cover story in Horseback Magazine’s predecessor publication, Texas Horse Talk.

The horses were part of a herd of 1,600 owned by the State of Texas and managed by the Texas Department of Criminal Justice in Huntsville, according to Michelle Lyons, chief TDCJ

spokeswoman.

“These were what we call cull horses,” she told Horseback Magazine.

The horses that prison livestock managers call “culls” boast some of the purest blood lines in the nation dating back to the mid nineteenth century. The state’s captive herd is subject to the most advanced breeding techniques and is held to exacting standards that are world class.

The livestock managers are products of the renowned schools of agriculture at Texas A&M University and the nearby Sam Houston State University. Only the finest bloodlines are introduced into the herd, and that is done rarely.

The horses are primarily Quarter Horses with substantial Percheron blood.

The information that the horses had been sold at auction came to Horseback Online Monday night when a confidential source who was at the Huntsville cattle auction called and said that a large number of prison horses had been sold to slaughter and had been loaded on a truck south heading down I-45.

“People who work at the prison are really upset about this,” the man said during a phone call to the magazine’s offices.

The Texas prison system holds “Premium Auctions” of horses only rarely where the public is invited to bid after extensive advertising of the sale. No such ads were placed for the 60 highly blooded horses sold Monday. The were quietly sent to auction where a large truck was already waiting, according to the source who said the horses sold for about 40 cents a pound.

Lyons confirmed the prison system auctions 90-100 “cull” horses each year from its program.

Livestock auctions are the primary sources of horses sent abroad for food.

Yet Lyons categorically denies the Huntsville prisons sent their horses to auction with the knowledge they would be sold for slaughter.

“We have had calls from a woman who claims this very thing, and probably is the same person who claims to have witnessed this,” Lyons said. “She alleged that 70 horses went to one bidder. We only had 61 horses in the auction – we don’t know how many non-TDCJ horses was also part of the auction.”

“The fact is that we participate in these public auctions as a way to keep the horses (from) going to a slaughterhouse – we don’t condone the sale of our horses for slaughter,” Lyons said.

The primary source for horses going to slaughter is public auctions.

Lyons was asked to provide the name of the buyer of the large number of TDCJ horses that went to auction on Monday.

She said prison livestock managers didn’t know who bought the horses. Asked by Horseback if they would call the auction house to ask the name of the buyer, she said the men declined.

Horseback Magazine called Huntsville Livestock Services, Inc. and spoke with manager Tommy Oates who declined to name the buyer of the TDCJ horses, saying “I don’t have to tell you a damned thing, ask the state,” before slamming down the phone on the reporter.

The Texas prison system breeds big horses, big enough to hold a 300 pound guard for an eight hour shift in the fields, hence the draft horse bloodlines brought into the herd. The stout corrections officer is known in prison parlance as “The Boss.” The horses and their human counterparts guard men dressed in white garb as they work fields with a garden hoe called by the derisive name, an “aggie.” The horses are bread for Texas’ 176 prison units which boast approx. 75 mounted guards or more.

There is one boss for each 25 inmates.

The prison horses are almost as wide as their bellies are deep. They hold saddles made behind the walls. The animals and men herd the system’s 20,000 cattle that are sold on the open market by the state. None of the meat is kept by TDCJ. The cheaper cuts fed to prisoners are bought at market price for the institution’s commissaries. Officials are quick to point out that prison inmates don’t eat steak but consumers may be lucky enough to eat beef raised behind prison walls.

Besides security and agriculture duty, the horses follow dogs chasing escaped convicts.

The state’s ideal prison horse is three quarters Quarter Horse and one quarter draft horse. Throughout his life a prison horse is freeze branded so that extensive records can be maintained in the system. The markings include a tattoo on the inside of the lip, a Texas star, the birth year, and ID number on the back left, and an additional identification on the horses left cheek near the anus. Like their fellow inmates, the horses have no name, only their number to identify them. The records are so extensive that a manager can track the record of a 20 year old horse and know every significant event of its life just by looking up his record.

The auction buyers Monday didn’t get the records of the horses they bought.

When a horse leaves the prison system, only its Coggins certificate and ID sheet follow.

While most of the horses aren’t registered, some boast the bloodlines of pure Texas equine royalty including pedigrees from the famed Waggoner Ranch. TDCJ has also bought other Foundation Quarter Horse stallions as well. Other bloodlines go back to the days when the state first built prisons. The Walls unit in Huntsville dates to 1849 shortly after the end of the Republic of Texas. The state’s prison captive breeding program is indeed, very, very, old. The prison herd has been steadily improved for nearly 162 years, and dramatically improved in recent years.  

The state has achieved its ideal confirmation of broadness, horses that have hardly any withers, and are short of back – no long backed high withered horses such as a Thoroughbred are allowed.

The horses are tough, powerful, and as potent as the 300 pound guards who ride them.                                                                                                                                                                                          

And when they go to an auction where the public is given notice, prison horses sell for considerably more than 40 cents a pound.

156 comments for “Texas Prison Horses May be on One Way Trip to the Mexican Border

  1. selwyn marock
    July 15, 2011 at 2:47 pm

    Wont be long before Obama and his Gang of Thugs will be coming after us “Perfect” humans,especially if they can turn a buck.
    Absolutely Sick.

    • Margaux
      July 15, 2011 at 5:29 pm

      AMEN!

    • So Sad
      July 15, 2011 at 10:02 pm

      I wish that the gang of thugs would go through the same process. That being said, why weren’t the horses offered for auction to the general public? I would have loved to have one or two of them.
      So sick, so real, so Obama (Hitler)It is the care of animals that shows the care of men.

    • Jessica
      July 16, 2011 at 1:17 am

      what the heck does Obama have to do with this? You all are mindless drones. EVERYTHING can not be his fault. It’s impossible.

      Good lord you people are pathetic.

      GET A GRIP.

      • who? me?
        July 17, 2011 at 11:55 am

        I’m no Obama fan, but really how could he have anything to do with something that has been going on forever?

      • dee
        July 17, 2011 at 12:47 pm

        AMEN!!Jessica

    • Miss Pennsyvania
      July 17, 2011 at 10:32 pm

      Wha????

    • ahughes
      July 18, 2011 at 5:13 pm

      What in the HELL are you talking about? This is a state issue. Go complain to Gov. GoodHair.

    • judith gaughran
      July 19, 2011 at 2:19 am

      This tragedy has nothing to do with the President. Why don’t you blame your moron governor, Rick Perry?

  2. Margaux
    July 15, 2011 at 5:27 pm

    I would love to know the exact bloodlines to really know if they are so great grand and wonderful. Additionally. a cross horse is not PURE as was stated in the first paragraph. missleading lead, YES! and ya know what, GOOD FOR THE PRISON! way to try to make money off horses in this shitty equine economy.

    ALSO, I would not be as “great grand and wonderful” of a herd if they kept breeding the not as high quality horses I am sure they sold. Culls are just that, NOT as worthy to be bred again. Why would you keep them. Who cares where they went. It is too hard to get people to even adopt worthy dogs from the pound. Same with the horses. Do you think they could have gotten people to even take 70 free horses off their hands. NO! Who is going to be able to pay for their upkeep? People cannot even feed themselves or pay their electric bill, let alone TRY to feed a horse.

    Let it be what it is. It is a sad but true fact. How about we focus more energy on reopening the FREAKING GOVERNMENT in Minnesota!

    • Anne
      July 16, 2011 at 2:45 am

      who cares where they went ? culls are not worthy ? i care where they went; you missed the point about Culls; this is NO SUCH THING AS CULLS; THAT IS A MISNOMER; be like if someone called me White Trash; i am not white trash and those are not culls…

      I am a living human being and those are living breathing Equine!

      • dee
        July 17, 2011 at 12:49 pm

        ah… there is such a thing as culls in animals… responsible breeders actually care about what they breed. As for humans, there are waaaay too many from the shallow end of the gene pool!

        • Margaux
          July 17, 2011 at 5:04 pm

          Correct Dee-

          There are such things as culls. sorry but your McDonalds hamburgers are NOT 100% PURE Angus beef. They are most likely CULLED dairy cows. Call up your local extension agencey or coop and they will tell you the same thing. EDUCATE YOURSELF. Don’t be ignorant.

    • Debera
      July 16, 2011 at 3:28 am

      What a pitiful miserable human being! Is your heart cold to! The reason there are so many horses discarded each year is greed. Farms breed up to 100 mares a year and then only keep the best one or two then sell all of the rest. There are horses bread every year for their urine ect ect ect! Irresponsible! I feel sorry for you. You can’t even dig deep within your cold heart to have compassion for these suffering horses. In Mexico they use nails in the back to begin the slaughter process but the horse is fully aware. Oh and other places that uses the rubber stun bullet between the eyes do you prefer that? Well the horse is only out 30 seconds so it wakes up while it is being stripped of its flesh. I don’t even understand why you are commenting on a site that is for humane treatment of horses. The horses say” speak to the hooves because you are not worth getting upset over.

      • dee
        July 22, 2011 at 3:55 am

        wow, you really have to quit drinking the kool aid or at least learn the facts

  3. shirleyvh
    July 15, 2011 at 5:30 pm

    I cannot believe the Texas Prison would do such a thing to horses that served them well, or horses that might be fit for other people. And that nasty man that slammed the phone down!!! What pigs. I am not proud of these Texas residents. They belong behind bars also.

  4. Debbie
    July 15, 2011 at 6:31 pm

    Maybe the prison guards should lose a few pounds if their average weight is 30 pounds. Afterall you can’t expect the horse to tackle a prisoner. This is sick and they need to stop breeding. They are not breeding any great bloodlines here. All they are doing is making more horses to send down the slaughter pipeline. Shame on you – you should join the inmates!!

    • who? me?
      July 17, 2011 at 11:59 am

      when the horse is trained to ram a prisioner? I think they can take them down

  5. Debbie
    July 15, 2011 at 6:35 pm

    @Jennifer -maybe we can criticize the state for selling off their “surplus” because they are the fools who bred so many of them. Who else should take responsibility for that reasoning? Also, if everyone would stop breeding every single horse because they think it has a great blood line – than maybe we wouldn’t have such a problem to “unwanted horses” as you term them.

  6. Alice
    July 15, 2011 at 7:00 pm

    As a horse enthusiast, I find it very disturbing that these horses had to endure such a violent end. No animal should have to experience “unspeakable cruelty.” However, without such means to their end, the only other option in the U.S. for unwanted horses currently is starvation after being dumped on Public Lands or in an unknowing rancher’s pasture. Perhaps stories like these should create enough clamor to reopen WELL REGULATED slaughterhouses in the U.S. The sad fact is that not all these horses can be cared for: the economy sucks, the market is flooded, and people do not have the extra cash to spend on such expensive pets.

  7. Katie
    July 15, 2011 at 7:52 pm

    Why are they even breeding horses? As it says in the article they sold for 40 cents a pound. Why not go to the auction and buy draft crosses for the guards to ride. It costs a lot of money to breed a mare. They could save so much by just buying from the auctions instead of breeding. Its bullsh*t.

    • Conny
      July 19, 2011 at 2:08 pm

      You have too much common sense, Katie! LOL

  8. Justin
    July 15, 2011 at 8:34 pm

    Here’s something to think about the prisons have these horses for a reason. They are used, and hopefully some of the money that comes from these horses are put back into the prison system and maybe it helps out our tax dollars. A horse is not a pet it has been a tool for many of years it’s the bleeding hearts that has made it what it is now. Every country eat horse meat me myself no I don’t want a horse steak but is it any of our business to what another person eats? What does all the dog and cat lovers pets eat? Open the slaughter houses back up let the horse market get back to what it used to be. Add jobs back to America, spend your time with children that are less likely to live a good life. We eat cows and pigs there are countrys that don’t so where is America so great for not eating horse? All it’s done is knocked many people out of jobs from the rancher to the grain growers to slaughter house workers and that is what put America in the shape that it’s in.

    • July 16, 2011 at 3:34 am

      Justin, it doesn’t matter what another person eats but it does matter that the US is knowingly letting horses go to slaughter for human consumption in foreign countries that were not bred, raised or regulated as a food animal. Opening up slaughter plants is not going to make them food animals. Horses cannot comply with FDA food safety laws.

      What jobs? You are talking about a total of 30 jobs that were held by U.S. citizens between the three plants. That is sure to solve the unemployment crisis in this country.

    • Debera
      July 16, 2011 at 3:50 am

      Horses that have been given certain meds are not safe to eat. In fact the meat is carcinogenic. If a child eats just a small piece of horse meat that has a residual of certain meds still in the meat it is deadly. Most horses that are shipped to Mexico and other places do not have a list of medications administered to that horse so it is a crap shoot. Not until there is a big incident with the meat and illness will there be changes. Does the United States want to risk an incident of tainted horse meat shipped to our allies?fact the meat is carci

      • who? me?
        July 17, 2011 at 12:03 pm

        Horses that have been given certain meds are not safe to eat
        That is why they are held until the carcinogens are out of their systems

        • Margaux
          July 17, 2011 at 5:06 pm

          true

          • Shea
            July 20, 2011 at 3:17 pm

            ummm…not true. It costs too much to keep the horses for any length of time, and so they are not. They are pretty much run out of the trucks (those that can still run) and put in holding pens until they are run up a chute and have a man with a dull blade attempt to cut through the back of their neck to paralyze them. This is usually done in a matter of hours, days if the animal is unlucky.

            Bute stays in the animals system for quite awhile, which is why it says on the bottle in nice big letters ” Not for use on animals intended for human consumption”. And that’s not the worst of the drugs that can be found in the meat. The horses being shipped out of the US, and even a lot of those slaughtered in Canada and Japan are ex pets, ex racers, etc and have had loads of lovely drugs and medications pumped into them causing them to be a potentially dangerous food source for those foolish enough to buy them.

            I am not saying people cannot eat horses, just that the horses that are being shipped from here were not meant to be eaten and it is dangerous to do so. And unless you have the urge to start breeding and raising meat horses, its unlikely to change any time soon.

    • Edie
      July 17, 2011 at 9:30 am

      Used as tools? Yes I guess you can say that. Used to assist us in our fight for freedom…and winning it as well as dying for it, used to carry the mail, medical supplies, carry us over terrain that vehicles cant, These animals are not part of the food chain mentioned in genesis…only cattle, fowl, fish and Bread. Horses are not meant to be eaten, and anybody who does is a Heathen and you my dear, are ignorant.

      • dee
        July 17, 2011 at 11:18 pm

        I am pretty sure people in INdia consider us ignorant for eating beef but you don’t see them trying to stop the slaughter of them..As for ignorance, human beings were eating horses long before they were riding them, learn from history my dear.

  9. SusanA
    July 15, 2011 at 11:45 pm

    What an utterly asinine, Disneyfied article. Thanks Fugs, for posting it, because I can’t imagine a more blinkered view of the horse world.

    First off these are oversized grade horses, and nothing more. The whole ‘highly blooded’ thing is complete and utter BS thing. How about breeding something with them funny things called withers, which sure come in handy for keeping a saddle in place?

    More further proof that this whole issue is pure BS. Up here in Canada, when the Mounties (y’know, the guys in the funny hats and red coats) sell THEIR idea of Musical Ride culls, at THEIR auction, those horses are flippin fought over. They get snapped up at easily $15k per horse, often more. A helluva lot better than 40 cents a pound for a fat grade monster who has to tote around some fatass jail guard.

    And as for the comments about cruel Mexican slaughterhouses…well how about you stop providing them with useless horses to slaughter in the first place?!

    • Margaux
      July 17, 2011 at 5:05 pm

      Thank you for the truthfulness. right on

  10. need to get your facts straight
    July 16, 2011 at 1:00 am

    For one the person in question did not buy as many as ya`ll are saying.. for 2 I seen other people buy some from the sale.. I myself bought 2 prison horses. So if it was not advertised why did I know about it and how did the other buyers know about it.. people need to do more research before they start running there mouths.. the person in question was reselling them in the back of the barn to people as well.. The person in question also paid up to 80 cents a pound for the said horses that rode.. Yes he did give 40 cents for the young crazy bronky or unbroken ones.. I`m just setting here laughing in disbelief.. A 1400 pound horse at 80 cents a pound is not going to go to slaughter.. I`m sorry… yall are dumb asses! Do your research.. that sale barn was packed with people.. some bought and others didn’t even raise their hands once.. and do your research on slaughter prices.. these horses are not on there way to the Mexico border.. a person isn’t going to give double what they are bringing to slaughter.. they would loose thousands of dollars.. the person in question has people on a list that wants what they have.. why dont ya`ll keep an eye on the computer and I bet over the next few weeks ya`ll will see ALOT of these horses pop up for sale..

    • skip
      July 16, 2011 at 3:20 pm

      Finally,a common sense post on this Texas prison-horse issue!Since the bulk of horses destined for slaughter are bought thru livestock/horse auctions(a fact that even non-horse owners now appear to be aware of),won’t it be great to see thousands of horse enthusiasts attending these auctions across the USA,buying up the 100,000+ horses normally going to slaughter every year;think of the revenue-jobs,feed bought,etc.required to support them!It would be a win-win situation.Everyone would benefit;let’s not confine our anger to just one auction,no-let’s support them all and save the horses.We owe it to the horses,not to mention the goodwill it will spawn.

    • who? me?
      July 17, 2011 at 12:06 pm

      well said. I’m so tired of the knee jerk reactions to everything

  11. Anne
    July 16, 2011 at 2:41 am

    People are in denial about what happens to these bred Equine; what they do is beyond immoral; its downright animal cruelty…esp. considering how docile these breeds of equine are; stop the madness

    • Margaux
      July 17, 2011 at 5:09 pm

      I have 2 very nice stock type geldings. 8 years old. FOR SALE right now. Central Oklahoma. I need to sell them fast. I am telling the WORLD about them right now. and If someone doesn’t buy them by the time I need to pay some bills, there is a reality. Am I supposed to starve and not have a house to live in because I should foremost find these very well trained horses a nice home? I cannot force people to buy them. I will take $2,500 a piece for them. Pictures on my facebook. margaux tucker

      • Juney
        July 18, 2011 at 4:08 am

        Are you saying that if they don’t sell, you sell them to slaughter? Why wouldn’t you lower their price if they’re so hard to sell, rather than getting maybe $300 for meat? Big gap between that and $2,500

      • Sunny
        July 20, 2011 at 7:29 pm

        You shouldn’t EVER own or purchase horses if you can’t afford them – point blank. It’s irresponsible.

        You should have plans in place in case something happens to you financially, and if not, you should do the right thing and euthanize them – it doesn’t cost that much and it is a nicer ending. If they are TRULY very well trained horses, they would sell. If they aren’t selling at 2,500 drop the price because they probably aren’t worth it in today’s market.

  12. Lorelei
    July 17, 2011 at 4:21 am

    Stop it! Good horses were lost. It’s done and can’t be made over. I am no judge over prison protocol and their practices, so I remain neutral (while committing to my own personal beliefs, which I will not post here). Battle on, little fugliets…such a waste of energy and internet. Fugs can snark…she’s made her reputation tongue in cheek…the rest of yu…damn…very, very unattractive for the horse world. Good intent for naught, I’m sure. Waiting for the hellfire.

  13. CM
    July 18, 2011 at 12:19 pm

    How about Texas stops breeding so many grade horses that are unwanted so they have to go to slaughter? How about they pick up all the rescue horses people already don’t want? Nice program Texas tax payers, breeding horses that are useless and will go straight to slaughter.

  14. Aztechalo
    July 18, 2011 at 7:22 pm

    I think if you look at the pure numbers, you will get an idea of how wasteful this program really is. There are 75 guards. 100 horses are culled every year. How many are they actually keeping? They certainly don’t need over 100 horses every year. It costs a lot to feed a horse; Way more than 4o cents a pound brings back to you later. Add in vet care, shots and hoof care, even if done by prison labor, is still more expensive than the price of flesh at auction. The government is wasting tax payers money. (Whoa! that’s a surprise.)

    As for their “top of the line” breeding program, it’s a lie. When you breed grade horses, you get a lot of culls. Period. When you cross-breed, you get unpredictable results, even when done with really nice horses (which these are not.)

    Any program that supports sending horses to slaughter in Mexico should have a PR problem. Of course, the Texas prison system isn’t known for being especially responsive to bad PR. Maybe some coverage of their fatty guards riding their “highly bred horses” spliced in with the videos of the Mexican slaughter house workers stabbing horses numerous times in the neck until the spinal cord is severed, would make some people realize that the fate of aution horses is not a nice quick painless end.

    Lastly, don’t compare horse slaughter to the slaughter of our standard livestock animals, like cows or pigs. Livestock slaughter that happens in this country is generally a quick and painless end. I know, if you’re from PETA, you don’t agree and maybe rightfully so, but it’s regulated at least. Horse slaughter, which only happens out of country is not regulated and it’s disgusting. Go ahead, Youtube it. I dare you. Then come back and tell me you want you tax dollars to support that sort of cruelty. Ther’s no bullet to the head; that cuts into profit.

    I agree with pervious posts, it would be more fiscally and ethically responsible to buy grade draft crosses at auction, that are already riding age, rather than breeding grade horses that will end up at the same auction.

    • dee
      July 19, 2011 at 12:51 pm

      then maybe the ridiculous law banning the slaughter plants here should be overturned and we could regulate how these horses are handled

  15. admin
    July 18, 2011 at 10:35 pm

    Since there is no breed registry for prison horses produced by a highly developed captive breeding program. We find considerable fault with calling the TDCJ horses simply grade horses or denigrating them in any way. We have ridden these animals and you will never find a more docile, comfortable, ride anywhere. They are bred for a specific purpose, not to produce a fine pedigree on paper to enrich an individual breeder. A good horse is a good horse, and a bad horse is no good despite how it looks in the record book.

    The Editor

    • Conny
      July 19, 2011 at 2:15 pm

      “Since there is no breed registry for prison horses produced by a highly developed captive breeding program.” – You claim to be the editor, yet you didn’t even catch that this sentence is incomplete?

  16. admin
    July 18, 2011 at 10:37 pm

    And for you picky readers out there, we regret the syntax error in our previous note.

    The Editor

  17. MARIA SONIA ESTRADA-SOLERO
    July 19, 2011 at 8:48 am

    COMO SIEMPRE , LA CRUELDAD Y LA INMORALIDAD DEL SER HUMANO , REBASA TODOS LOS LIMITES . ESTA EXTREMA CRUELDAD SEL SER HUMANO ACABARA CON TODOS LOS ANIMALES Y CON EL MISMO . POR FAVOR , LOS CABALLOS HAN AYUDADO A LOS HUMANOS DESDE HADE MILES DE AÑOS ¿POR QUE SE LES ASESINA Y MALTRATA ?.ASCO DE HUMANIDAD

  18. Conny
    July 19, 2011 at 2:18 pm

    Please define “genetically perfect” and how you arrived at the conclusion that this herd qualified to be called such.

  19. deb
    July 19, 2011 at 8:58 pm

    then found several ads for the huntsville Prison horses being sold for $1600 – $2400 http://sanmarcos.craigslist.org/grd/2492095800.html
    http://austin.craigslist.org/grd/2493841432.html
    http://dallas.craigslist.org/sdf/grd/2491566461.html
    http://texashorse.org/
    The woman at the auction who reported seeing 70 of the prison horses that sold for .40 a lb.l heading south and believes straight to Mexico said no notice was given but the sale yard has an auction every Monday and it would be very odd for all horses to sell for the same price when they were a mix of loose young horses and saddle trained horses.

    There were 61 prison horses, and no numbers to how many other horses were at the auction.
    You can pull auction reports for horses and see most are not getting .40 to .80 per lb. unless they are riding horses or horses people wanted. Really you can get a horse for dirt cheap at auction. They do not go for $1 a lb any longer, and havent been for years prices started to drop in 2002 now it is in cents per lb. 08- .30 for “loose horses and even ones that are ridden through the sale.

    If the horses were heading straight to Mexico why am I finding them in ads and rescues claiming they tracked a few down. I wonder if the rescue found the same ads I did because they were not hard to find

    I know there is a chance some went to slaughter , that day or next month when the horse doesnt work out 1%- 2% of horses from America end up in slaughterplants every year.

    I don’t understand why the prison just doesn’t have a sale with fixed prices or a reserve and pay the citizens of the state back for keeping the prisoners fed and housed. There are state, county and agency auctions for everything from jewels to yachts. less hassle maybe than a straight sale

    My point was there is only one side of the story being told , no pictures or notes from the auction or picture of the truck of prison horses heading south, who doesn’t have a camera on their phone anymore particulary if you were at an auction and worried about who was buying them
    I don’t think any of the story is right and seems pretty dramatic calling the horses”some of the purest blood lines in the nation dating back to the mid nineteenth century” I mean don’t all horses have blood lines dating back to the mid nineteenth century?
    Its a weird report and weird story but it got people to be up in arms against slaughter so I guess it did what it was meant to do. I just wonder if it had been worded as horses were sold at a public auction house for $400- $960 a head instead of .40 – .80 per lb if anyone would have raised an eyebrow.
    In comparison here is the link to fallon livestock auction which is just down the road from the feedlot . This auction is every week and it goes on and on unoticed . The prices are per hundred pounds. so where it says 8.00 that is .08 cents a lb ($80.00 for an average 1000 lb horse.)
    http://www.fallonlivestock.com/reports/20110712.pdf

    I am not arguing any pro slaughter side to this I am just saying the hysteria over these horses selling for a pretty decent price is a little dramatic considering it happens weekly in this state in several auctions

    • skip
      July 20, 2011 at 3:24 am

      Hats off to Deb’s common sense,factual post of July 19th! While contentious and controversial,the horse-slaughter issue is rife w/contradictions,assumptions and self-servitude by so-called horse-lovers.We need more people like Deb to be engaged to bring civility,and straight-forward thoughts/ideas to the table.Deb, I hope you will continue to voice your opinion,and encourage others to do the same.

  20. admin
    July 20, 2011 at 4:01 am

    Thanks Skip, thanks for all your posts. We are a little confused though. In your most recent one, you compliment a reader on civility, yet call your opposition “so called” horse lovers. Is that civil?

    The Editor

    • skip
      July 20, 2011 at 3:31 pm

      Please allow me to respond so as not to confuse you or others in regards to my last post…I don’t consider “so-called horse lovers” as the opposition as you state;what I object to are the trashy,low-brow snippets when differing opinions are offered.We can do w/out “you are either a troll who just wants to make trouble” or “I hope you go to hell” or “I hope this gets thru that thick head of yours”,etc.(Some of the “nicer” comments I’ve read)It is quite obvious which group of supporters makes which statements;I just wanted to encourage “Deb”, and others to provide more common-sense,factual thoughts on this forum.If the shoe fits,wear it.

      • admin
        July 20, 2011 at 3:43 pm

        Well said, Skip.

        The Editor

  21. Jess
    July 20, 2011 at 8:17 am

    Honestly, this woman’s blog entry entry sums this situation up perfectly –> http://fuglyblog.com/?p=2878

  22. Gina
    July 20, 2011 at 11:28 pm

    1600 horse herd! 90-100 culls a year??!! Does anyone think that the prison system is maybe…overbreeding grade horses?

    I’ve been blaming the AQHA breeders..I should have gone after these guys!

    FEED THE FRENCH! BREED MORE HORSES!!

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